are of course senator john kerry, the national security adviser tom donelan u.n. ambassador susan rice. three of the prominent names. what do you think? what are the pros and cons of each of those? >> well, i'll tell you i think senator kerry would be terrific. he has the stature the experience. people around the world know him and like him. of course, the downside is that we might have to have another special election in massachusetts and then scott brown is back. >> jennifer: of course. >> but you know, what's interesting about that my sense of it and i have a lot of family in massachusetts, you know, i have a feeling that duval patrick, should he decide to run in that special election, would be a real heavy favorite for it and also would be a great united states senator. so that might work through. that's an interesting kind of -- again, musical chairs. >> jennifer: i was just going to say that duval of course, might be up for another position which is -- eric holder, right? which one would he -- you know, head in the di